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Mike Pence v Kamala Harris: Trump's health raises stakes of vice-presidenti­al debate

- David Smith in Washington

It is always about who will be a heartbeat away from the presidency. But this time, that applies more than ever.

The incumbent, Mike Pence, and the California senator Kamala Harris are set to take part in a vice-presidenti­al debate in Salt Lake City, Utah, on Wednesday with both under pressure to show their readiness to step up to the top job.

The presidenti­al race has been upended again, this time by 74-yearold Donald Trump’s infection with the coronaviru­s, focusing minds on the potential for Pence to take over even before election day on 3 November. The Democratic candidate, Joe Biden, is even older at 77, raising the prospect that if elected, he might not serve two terms but rather pass the torch to Harris in 2024.

“The stakes of the debate just got much higher,” said Aaron Kall, director of debate at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. “Typically, vicepresid­ential debates don’t really make much of a difference and aren’t very well viewed – the one in 2016 was only watched by 37 million people, a much smaller audience than the three presidenti­al debates.

“But now, given what happened with President Trump, it really increases the stakes of this debate because of the health of the candidates. You have a 74-year-old, a 77-year-old and so these two have to be ready to step in at a moment’s notice.”

Trump left hospital on Monday night, but the two remaining presidenti­al debates between Trump and Biden later this month remain in serious doubt. “This may be the last debate of the cycle and another reason why it’s extra important,” Kall said.

Pence has been rehearsing for the debate with Pam Bondi, the former attorney general of Florida, playing the role of Harris, the Axios website reported. Harris has been practicing with Pete Buttigieg, a fellow Democratic primary candidate, standing in for Pence – both men are from Indiana.

The pair will debate with a Plexiglass shield between them, according to the Associated Press, a precaution requested by the Biden-Harris campaign.And whereas Biden and Trump were separated by 7ft, Pence and Harris will be seated 12ft apart as an extra precaution. In another sense, they are worlds apart.

Pence is a socially conservati­ve Christian evangelica­l man from the midwest, Harris a progressiv­e mixedrace woman from California. Her past career as a criminal prosecutor, and a tormentor of Trump allies in congressio­nal hearings, mean she is widely seen as a formidable debater.

Kall said: “Most people think that Kamala Harris is going to win. So just like Biden benefited from low expectatio­ns in the first presidenti­al debate, Mike Pence is going to be aided by that. He’s pretty familiar with policy and facts. He’s not going to win any personalit­y contests but he’s going to deliver a solid performanc­e over 90 minutes. He has a good chance to prevail as the underdog.”

He added: “In some ways, just like Joe Biden, Kamala Harris is a very inconsiste­nt debater. In the Democratic primary, she did great in the first one in Miami in June 2019, and that rocketed her up to the top tier. But then she was never able to recreate that magic in subsequent debates.

“Her kryptonite was Tulsi Gabbard. They got into exchanges where Gabbard got the best and got under her skin a little bit and so that’s something that Pence could review video and try to emulate, although that may not fit with his style or personalit­y.”

But other analysts remain confident that Harris has the perfect skill set to put the Trump administra­tion on trial over its handling of the coronaviru­s pandemic, which has cost more than 205,000 lives, and an economic slump that put millions out of work.

Tara Setmayer, a former Republican communicat­ions director on Capitol Hill, said: “Given Kamala Harris’s background as a prosecutor and the way in which he is an able questioner, I think that you will see her prosecute the case against this administra­tion and against Mike Pence well. I don’t know that Mike Pence knows what’s about to hit him from Kamala Harris.”

Before the vice-presidenti­al debate in 2008, commentato­rs warned Biden to avoid appearing condescend­ing or patronisin­g towards Sarah Palin, the first woman on a Republican ticket. Pence will be watched closely for any hint of sexism or racism, as will Republican­s in their attempts to spin what happens.

Antjuan Seawright, a Democratic strategist based in Columbia, South Carolina, said: “That is how they govern themselves and that’s their version of campaignin­g and speaking to a certain group of people in this country.

“But the one thing they can’t do is run away from the obvious failures of this administra­tion and the responsibi­lity that they have on their hands as it relates to this pandemic and all of the challenges, including the economic challenges, that come along with this pandemic.”

But Mike Murphy, a Republican fundraiser and businessma­n in Indiana, denied that Pence would be mean-spirited or seek to play identity politics. “He’s not that way,” he said.

“I think he will keep it to the issues and promote the Trump-Pence record. He’ll be very civil. He won’t be namecallin­g. There’s no reason to be misogynist­ic or racist because it’s the vicepresid­ential nominee of each party, not an Asian-Jamaican woman versus a white guy – he doesn’t see it that way.”

Highlighti­ng the fact that Harris could succeed Biden and become the 47th president was fair game, Murphy added. “It’s not a race or gender thing, it’s about political philosophy. Kamala Harris is much more close to the socialisti­c line than even Biden is; he is a moderate compared to Harris.

“It’s fair for Pence to make the point that if you vote for Biden and he does not complete his term, then you end up with Harris so you’ve got to be prepared for that. It’s more liberal or socialist versus free market philosophy than it is about race or gender.”

 ?? Reuters/ ?? Kamala Harris will face Mike Pence in Salt Lake City on Wednesday. Composite:
Reuters/ Kamala Harris will face Mike Pence in Salt Lake City on Wednesday. Composite:
 ?? Photograph: Patrick Semansky/AP ?? Kamala Harris speaks in Salt Lake City on Saturday.
Photograph: Patrick Semansky/AP Kamala Harris speaks in Salt Lake City on Saturday.

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