The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Clinton, Sanders spar at N.Y. debate

Democratic candidates question each other’s judgment.

- By Julie Pace and Catherine Lucey

NEW YORK — Deepening their increasing­ly bitter feud, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders challenged each other’s judgment in Thursday night’s Democratic debate, a showdown at a pivotal moment in the party’s presidenti­al primary campaign.

Sanders cited Clinton’s support for the unpopular Iraq war and for free trade agreements, as well as her willingnes­s to accept money through a super PAC, as evidence that she lacks the needed judgment. Still, he backed away from previous statements questionin­g her qualificat­ions for the highest office, saying the former secretary of state does have the “experience and intelligen­ce” to be president.

Clinton made little effort to hide her irritation with Sanders’ challenge to her qualificat­ions, saying that while she has been “called a lot of things in my life, that was a first.” She also cast Sanders as unprepared to implement his signature policy proposals, including breaking up big Wall Street banks.

“I think you need to have the judgment on day one to be commander in chief,” she said.

Debating in Brooklyn, not far from Wall Street, Clinton said her approach would rely on the provisions of the existing Dodd-Frank financial reform law, passed

during the Great Recession, that mandate the break-up of banks that fail to pass stress tests or submit adequate “living wills” describing how they would unwind their affairs in an orderly way if they faced bankruptcy.

She said she would name regulators who “are tough enough and ready enough to break up” any bank that fails to meet the law’s requiremen­ts. She said she also wants to expand those standards to apply to hedge funds and insurance companies.

Sanders responded that he doesn’t need Dodd-Frank’s guidelines to tell him the banks are too big.

“They are just too big — too much concentrat­ion of wealth and power,” he said.

But he wasn’t as sure of himself when challenged to demonstrat­e how Clinton was influenced in her policies by donations from Wall Street, as he has often alleged. He accused Clinton of being busy giving highpaid speeches to Goldman Sachs while he was introducin­g legislatio­n to break up fraudulent operators.

Clinton said Sanders couldn’t come up with an example because there isn’t one. But she quickly went on the defensive again when pushed on when she would release transcript­s of her paid speeches to Wall Street firms, reiteratin­g her insistence that she will do so only when other presidenti­al candidates do.

Sanders said he would happily release all his speeches because “there were no speeches.”

The candidates also sparred over raising the federal minimum wage, with Sanders expressing surprise as Clinton voiced support for efforts to set the hourly pay rate at $15, the level he has long backed.

“I don’t know how you’re there for the fight for 15 when you say you want a $12 minimum wage,” he said.

Clinton then clarified that while she does support a $12 hourly minimum wage, she would sign legislatio­n raising that level to $15.

The debate was the first for the Democratic candidates in five weeks. It came ahead of Tuesday’s primary in New York, a high-stakes contest with a huge cache of delegates at stake.

For Clinton, a win in her adopted home state would blunt Sanders’ recent momentum and put his pursuit of the nomination further out of reach. A Sanders upset over Clinton would shake up the race, raising fresh concerns about her candidacy and breathing new life into the Vermont senator’s campaign.

Sanders has won a string of recent primary contests, including a big victory earlier this month in Wisconsin. But because Democrats award their delegates proportion­ally, he’s struggled to cut into the lead Clinton took earlier in the voting. He’s also failed to persuade superdeleg­ates — the party insiders who can back the candidate of their choice regardless of how their states vote — to switch their loyalties from Clinton.

Clinton has accumulate­d 1,289 pledged delegates from primaries and caucuses while Sanders has 1,038. Her lead grows significan­tly when the superdeleg­ates are added in: 1,758 for Clinton and 1,069 for Sanders.

It takes 2,383 to clinch the Democratic nomination. Sanders would need to win 68 percent of the remaining delegates and uncommitte­d superdeleg­ates to reach that figure.

Despite his long mathematic­al odds, Sanders has vowed to stay in the race through the party’s convention in July. Backed by legions of loyal supporters, he’s amassed impressive fundraisin­g totals that give him the financial wherewitha­l to do just that.

 ?? SETH WENIG / AP ?? Democratic presidenti­al candidates Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., (right) and Hillary Clinton had some heated exchanges during the Democratic presidenti­al debate in Brooklyn, N.Y., on Thursday.
SETH WENIG / AP Democratic presidenti­al candidates Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., (right) and Hillary Clinton had some heated exchanges during the Democratic presidenti­al debate in Brooklyn, N.Y., on Thursday.
 ?? FRANK FRANKLIN II / AP ?? Journalist­s watch Democratic presidenti­al candidates Sen. Bernie Sanders (right) and Hillary Clinton on a large screen during the Democratic presidenti­al debate at the Brooklyn Navy Yard Thursday.
FRANK FRANKLIN II / AP Journalist­s watch Democratic presidenti­al candidates Sen. Bernie Sanders (right) and Hillary Clinton on a large screen during the Democratic presidenti­al debate at the Brooklyn Navy Yard Thursday.

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