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DOJ to take Giuliani info; Barr voices caution

- By Katie Benner and Kenneth P. Vogel

WASHINGTON — Attorney General William Barr said Monday that the Justice Department would consider informatio­n from Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, about Ukraine. That could include assertions about former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

The Justice Department “has the obligation to have an open door to anybody who wishes to provide us informatio­n that they think is relevant,” Barr said at an unrelated news conference.

He added that no informatio­n coming out of Ukraine could be taken “at face value” given the amount of politicall­y driven disinforma­tion that could emerge from the country.

Any informatio­n from Giuliani would be considered highly controvers­ial, as he has long promoted purported efforts by Ukrainians to undercut Trump’s 2016 presidenti­al bid and urged further scrutiny of the overlap between Biden’s anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine as vice president and his son’s seat on the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company widely accused of corruption. Any investigat­ions into those matters could benefit the president by potentiall­y underminin­g his political rivals.

Giuliani is also under investigat­ion by federal prosecutor­s in Manhattan for possibly violating foreign lobbying laws in his work related to Ukraine.

Barr’s remarks came a day after Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said the attorney general had informed him that the Justice Department was “receiving informatio­n coming out” of Ukraine that Giuliani and his associates were uncovering.

“As I did say to Sen. Graham, we have to be very careful with respect to any informatio­n coming from the Ukraine,” Barr said Monday. “There are a lot of agendas in the Ukraine, a lot of crosscurre­nts. And we can’t take anything we received from Ukraine at face value.”

The Justice Department can gather informatio­n without opening an investigat­ion. Barr said in a memo last week the he would personally have to approve any inquiry into the 2020 presidenti­al candidates.

Barr also told Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, that a process was now in place that would allow the Justice Department to analyze whether informatio­n shared by Giuliani was credible.

Giuliani would not comment Monday on whether he had shared any informatio­n with the Justice Department, but he rejected questions about the credibilit­y of what he had collected. “My informatio­n checks out 10 ways to Sunday,” he wrote in a text message, asserting that he had obtained four or five “unquestion­ably true documents” relating to the Bidens’ work in Ukraine.

In the past, the Justice Department has distanced itself from Giuliani. In September, a spokeswoma­n said that Barr had “not discussed anything relating to Ukraine” with Giuliani.

And a spokesman has said that Brian Benczkowsk­i, the assistant attorney general for the department’s criminal division, would not have included Giuliani in an August meeting about a bribery case had he known that federal prosecutor­s in New York were investigat­ing two of Giuliani’s associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman.

Parnas and Fruman were charged weeks after the meeting with violating campaign finance laws to try to unlawfully influence politician­s, including former Rep. Pete Sessions, RTexas.

Giuliani had worked with the two men last year to collect informatio­n about — and advance investigat­ions into — targets of Trump, including Biden, who is seeking the Democratic presidenti­al nomination.

Democrats on Monday raised questions about the arrangemen­t, suggesting that it posed a potential conflict of interest for Barr given the department’s ongoing investigat­ion of Giuliani’s associates.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. and the House Judiciary Committee chairman, called it “a significan­t departure from those traditiona­l channels.” In a letter to the attorney general, he demanded to know how the “intake process” would work and who had vetted it.

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