Hindustan Times (Delhi)

‘SOMEBODY HAD TO BITE THE BULLET AND SOME DAY IT HAD TO BE BITTEN’

- (Excerpts of interview aired on February 1, 2018. Courtesy: Doordarsha­n)

FACE TO FACE Finance minister Arun Jaitley speaks about the shortfall in fiscal deficit target, his new healthcare plan and the need to increase farmers’ nonfarming incomes

In an interview to state-run broadcaste­r Doordarsha­n, finance minister Arun Jaitley discussed Budget 2018, touching upon issues ranging from the National Health Protection Scheme, which he termed ‘Modicare,’ to the fiscal deficit and farm sector. Edited excerpts:

ONFAILINGT­OMEETTHE FISCALDEFI­CITTARGET OF3.2%OFTHEGDP,THE FIRSTSLIPP­AGEINTHE GOVERNMENT’STERM.IT WASREVISED­TO3.5%

You can theoretica­lly use the word slippage, but essentiall­y it is substantia­lly statistica­l. For a 12-month year, my direct tax revenue is for 12 months but this being the first year of GST (goods and services tax), it factors in only 11 months of GST. Because of this, I am inherently ₹36,000 crore short because the 12th month is not there.

As far as the future roadmap is concerned, despite expanding expenditur­e, I have predicted 3.3 for next year, and 3.1 for the year thereafter, then 3.0. The glide path, which has been my commitment, will remain. I have not allowed it to grow in any single year and this year you can call it an aberration partly because of structural reforms and partly because of the statistica­l switchover that has taken place.

ON FOCUS ON TAXATION; TAXING THE RICH AND NOT REDUCING TAXES ON BIG COMPANIES AND RELIEF OFFERED TO SMALL COMPANIES

into the investment market. Not a rupee of tax is paid. Is it equitable that ₹367,000 crore is what you earn in a year and don’t pay tax? Somebody had to bite the bullet and some day it had to be bitten. I think this was the most appropriat­e moment for it. Investors also knew that sooner or later this would come, but I didn’t want to commit the mistake my predecesso­rs did by putting anything which would have a retrospect­ive effect. So I said that whatever you have earned in India till yesterday — 31 January — will be grandfathe­red and protected. Any profit which is earned thereafter from the sale of equities will be subject to a 10% tax. My eventual roadmap is to bring down corporate tax to 25% also because of competitiv­e reasons.

We are now competing with countries where investors have a choice, and why should they invest in a country where the tax rate is 30-40% when they have the choice to go to a 20% country?

Last year, I took the first step, that small companies, upto ₹50 crore turnover, (should be taxed less). This time, I have taken it up to ₹250 crore. Which means the entire small-medium upcoming sector is covered in this. I am gradually moving upwards and out of the 600,000 companies This is not an election budget at which are filing returns, I have all. If you look at the economy, covered 593,000. These 7,000 big our services sector is strong and companies are out of it yet, but manufactur­ing has improved, so don’t forget these 7,000 compait is natural that we will fix the nies are those who avail of all the weakest areas of our econexempt­ions and the actual rate omy...we all are very worried they are paying is less than 25%. I about agricultur­e and we are can’t suddenly remove the working to double farmers’ exemptions as they have a sunset income. We need to work on rural date. roads, electrific­ation within and

...as far as long-term capital outside the homes in rural areas, gainsareco­ncerned,quotedinmy toilets, health for the poor and speech last year, ₹367,000 crore is work on giving the farmer a good the profit large investors have price for the produce. And there earned — domestic and internaare band-aid solutions like waivtional—andtheyare­wealthypeo­ing off loans so that the problem is ple who have brought in equity solved, but they will recur after

ON WHETHER THIS IS AN ELECTION BUDGET

two years. We need to attempt to increase their income from agricultur­al and non-agricultur­al activities. So for him (farmer) to get a price which is 50% more than his cost, according to Dr (MS) Swaminatha­n’s recommenda­tion, we need to get closer to that and have attempted that.

ON ‘MODICARE’ FUNDING AND ITS DELIVERY

This will be a government-funded scheme. This is a country where there was no social security. It (Modicare) is a leap in the direction of social security. You have put 0.1% cess on income tax, which means the 3% has been changed to 4% with a 1% surcharge which will have a marginal 0.3% impact. We can use the long-term capital gains and these resources to help increase farm income and provide healthcare. This means that the money you are collecting from the public is being used to provide healthcare to the weaker sections. If through government means, the wider the base the cheaper will be the insurance premium because not everyone in every family has to be hospitalis­ed every year, but only during a crisis. So every family should have an insurance card’s insurance premium will be prepaid by the government along with a list of both private and public hospitals that can be availed of. The health ministry will work on the details and roll it out as soon as possible.

ON THE HIKE IN THE MINIMUM SUPPORT PRICE AND IF IT IS A SHORT-TERM FIX

Higher food prices have an effect but so do a lot of other things. And in this country, in the past, inflationa­ry levels have always been very high and today the situation is such that inflation can be contained within 3-4%.

MSP will not solve all the problems of the farmers, but it is an important pillar of it. I have specified several plans in this budget to increase the non-farming incomes for farmers and how we can increase their incomes.

ON THE MIDDLE-CLASS COMPLAININ­G ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF ANY RELIEF FOR THEM IN THE BUDGET

Last year, entry point rate was brought down from 10% to 5% of income tax. So it must be remem- bered that India is the only country in the world where 5% income tax exists. It’s the lowest slab in the world and it is not possible to reduce it further. Second, I chose three categories in such a way that those who were in need of tax relief this year and who fall in the middle-class bracket (benefit).

First, the entire salaried class which also includes the pensioners amount to nearly 2.5 crore people; for them I have restored ₹40,000 as standard deduction and the reason for this is that the other individual taxpayers such as business (people), profession­als, can adjust their expenditur­es in their own accounts. The salaried people have no such room to do so and hence this step was taken to provide them relief.

Secondly, senior citizens have complained that interest rates have been dropping and for the economy to move forward, it is important to reduce interest rates too and they were suffering because of it. I have not touched the interest rate of small savings and kept it constant at 8.3%....The interest they earn on up to ₹50,000 has been made tax free. A relief of upto ₹50,000 has been given on the expenses of their medicines; if they are hospitaliz­ed, they will be given a relief of up to ₹1 lakh.

In the salaried class, we have included women as well because there is no separate category for women in taxation. The standard deductions that have been offered will include women as well.

The third category belongs to businesses...all SMES (small and medium enterprise­s)– all businesses (with a turnover) less than ₹250 crore – should corporatiz­e themselves and conduct transparen­t businesses and their tax slabs will automatica­lly reduce...

ON BUDGET BEING SILENT ON RISING INTERNATIO­NAL CRUDE OIL PRICES

If you go into the details of the excise duties, one of the duties has been changed to a cess to balance the central revenues because after GST, the central revenues were taking a hit and the decline that you notice is because the duty becomes a cess. Ideally India would be very comfortabl­e with a price of about $60 (per barrel) and even if it moves up to the present level, it’s a shock we will try and absorb though it has an inflationa­ry impact. Until now, we are bearing the shock.

ON BITCOIN, GOLD

We want to discourage people on bitcoin and a government committee is deliberati­ng on it. Gold is an idle asset, present in the economy half in the form of jewellery lying in bank lockers and the other half in raw form and does not affect productivi­ty of the country. People can monetize it or use it so we introduced gold bonds or schemes but we have not received as much response as was anticipate­d so I gave an indication of making gold monetisati­on more attractive in this budget.

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